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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2013.07.13 07:01:00 -
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PvP is any combat or activity in game that leads to combat. Market trades are not really PvP imo because they are consentual. Both side agree to the outcome whereas in true PvP both side are in conflict and the outcome is determined by other factors - ship, skill, luck.
Likewise PvE in null low high is not PvP until a player attacks and transforms it into PvP. Avoiding PvP is not PvP it is the inverse of PvP and while highly difficult and requiring skill at times still not PvP until you fail at it.
My PvP is war decs against alliances, I engage in cat and mouse games, and the occasional hit and run on a member who makes a mistake and becomes separated vulnerable. I use spies, locator agents, research each member often taking weeks of prep. My goal is to kill as many as possible without getting killed. I enjoy the thrill of the hunt and outsmarting the many. |

Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2013.07.13 09:55:00 -
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Sol Kal'orr wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Market trades are not really PvP imo because they are consentual. Both side agree to the outcome. I bought up all the 'Item X' in region and now you have to pay 3x market to buy it. Did you consent to that? Sure you can buy it at the new price or go to another region, but either way, I have cost you ISK or time. Seeing as all you can lose in ship pew is ISK or time, I'd call it PVP. You may call it anything you wish. It doesnt change it to that. |

Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2013.07.13 11:07:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:anyone who says that any player activity that can be described as being against or opposed to another player is not pvp is objectively wrong In the context of MMOs its not a correct statement. Since everyone is competing for resources one could then say ice mining is PvP which is obviously fallacious.
The generally accepted definition in the gamer community is combat. |

Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2013.07.13 12:17:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:In the context of MMOs its not a correct statement. Since everyone is competing for resources one could then say ice mining is PvP which is obviously fallacious. If I drop a fleet of 50 macks on your ass and mine the ice out from under you, it's most certainly PvP. No, its not. |
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